I dread to think what the 'earth-wide' paradise is going to look like....
The Marvster
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New York Times article Dec 31 2015
by Gayle inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.
jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.
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The Marvster
after seeing the 'illustration' posted by SG098 I had to go search for the actual copy on the JWorg site because I couldn't believe that picture was real. To me that picture speaks of 'utter evil', everyone there hugging and laughing and 'being nice' to each other, while a person stands there in the corner completely alone, totally ignored. I mean, doesn't that strike you as just 'a tiny bit insensitive'?
'Look at us, we're all so loving to each other, but YOU stay there, you're not included in this', we're so loving, that's why we're ignoring you.... Apologies SG098, I actually doubted the picture, because on seeing it I thought, that sh*t cant be f***ing real, it's just too cruel, it must be a photoshop, but no, it's bloody real, I downloaded the magazine and lo and behold there's the picture... the borg has a totally twisted view of love, call it what it really is, hate, manipulation, bullying, passive aggressive control, ... the whole flipping congregation sending one 'weak' person to coventry, I'm gobsmacked... How I never saw this when I was still in, I don't know
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Received a YouTube Hate Message
by cappytan injehovah's witnesses are such loving people with christian personalities, are they not?.
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(ps, yes, i have a youtube channel.
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The Marvster
ok... these guys piss me off, unfortunately, if you're into watching lots of apostate vids on youtube, this type of reaction is far more common than one would think; One thing I love about the youtuber JwFairytale, is he actually makes videos, answering, or mocking these abusive people, or analyzing their ridiculous objections to his video content, hilarious to watch.
ok, I need to have some fun with this person's comments.
Shame on you apostate:
Just because JW's are a 'shame' based culture, doesn't mean the whole world gives a fuck about their psuedo authority to dish out shame willy nilly...
You are to be pitied.
if you are to be pitied why is that 'apparently compassionate statement' IMMEDIATELY followed by an abusive attitude that is the complete opposite of pity?
you are a FILTHY liar;
as opposed to a CLEAN, PRISTINE liar?
I will be happy when you are shunned by the faithful ones
hmmm I thought shunning was supposed to be a loving arrangement, not an arrangement that was put in place to 'make the congregation members feel HAPPY'
Let me tell you, your life WILL be ruined
is that another Borg prophecy? their track record for prophecy fulfillment is about, well, 0% success rate, I think you're gonna be okay. (and who the hell says things like 'let me tell you', before making a statement, he sounds like he pulled that line straight out of a JW bible drama about pharaoh)
You don't 'DESERVE' to be in God's congregation...
Does anybody DESERVE to be in the congregation? oh ok, this JW must have been late that meeting when they read the scripture that said anyone born into sin 'DESERVES DEATH', oh and the other one that talks about people being saved because of 'UN-DESERVED' kindness..... someone probably needs to remind this JW who just loves to condemn others via scathing monologues that he doesn't deserve anything either...
so don't take the lord's name in vain;
erm well that's going to be a bit difficult, because nobody actually knows what the Lord's bloody real name is anyway, so you can say all you want about Jeehooboo, it ain't the lords name (oops, or perhaps it IS Jeehooboo, oh oh)
Get out and REPENT:
ok, this must be a JW giving advice, because the whole of the rest of the entire population of the ENTIRE EARTH would usually say, 'get out and HAVE FUN man', but no, 'get out and repent' this has to be a JW speaking ... I don't even know what 'get out and repent' even means anyway..
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One Year Later - A Thank You to Tony Morris.
by cappytan indear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
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The Marvster
Hang on a minute, this whole 'asking the sisters if tight pants are attractive on brothers', i.e. the metrosexual look.
He said he asked 'sister after sister' if they found that look APPEALING, ATTRACTIVE on a brother, and they 'apparently' said 'NO'...
So isn't he suggesting that brothers should be dressing in a way that single sisters find 'attractive' 'appealing', huh?
I don't ever remember seeing that counsel in the from the Borganisation, Imagine that, 'now brothers, you will only be allowed to go out in field service and have privileges if you dress in a way that the sisters find ATTRACTIVE and APPEALING'... how would that go down.... Great use of logic AM3I definitely don't miss the Borg, full of toxic negativity towards the rank and file, and festering with guilt tripping,
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Blondie's Comments on the 11-8-2015 WT Study
by blondie inblondies highlights from the 11-08-2015 wt study (july 15, 2015).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
paragraph 11-15 recreation.
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by the way, thanks for posting Blondie..
I can see how one could easily get consumed by just about every wacko idea within the pages of the WT, you must have pretty damn good self-control to not spend hours and hours taking every little bit of nonsense apart....
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Blondie's Comments on the 11-8-2015 WT Study
by blondie inblondies highlights from the 11-08-2015 wt study (july 15, 2015).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
paragraph 11-15 recreation.
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The Marvster
JEHOVAH GOD created humans with free will, that is, the liberty
to choose between one option and another. God provided
a valuable guide for the first man and woman and their future
offspring—the conscience, an inner sense of right and
wrong.
It's things like this that once I started to 'think' about what's in the bible and taught by the dubs, I started thinking WTF??
So god creates free will, but supplied a conscience so that people could distinguish between right and wrong... to me that says, god KNEW that free will could potentially end in a total fuckup with man and woman making the WRONG decisions.... the system was not fool proof, and seems like a design fault
also if god 'GAVE them a guide, i.e. a CONSCIENCE', did they really have any free will? because surely the conscience was tailored by him, so any reaction they had to good or bad, how could it have been their own? was it not a reaction created by the conscience put into them.... they were never allowed to think for themselves in the first place so how is that free will?
and then why the heck did god create an existence where 'evil', bad, sin etc existed, only then having to put a conscience into humans to help them avoid that course? huh? why not just avoid the whole sin issue in the first place and design a fool proof system???? WTF... it's almost like he did it on purpose... didn't he trust his own work? WTF???
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Hello!
by josephus ini haven't been around in some time, i used to post under the name "josephus" many years ago back when the late great farkel.
i have returned recently and have a youtube channel called "thegreatapostate!
i am very pleased with it and hope you'll have a look.
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The Marvster
Hello Josephus,
been watching your YT channel and especially enjoyed the 'Silliest Unwritten Rule' series.
it's great the way you go into how the organisation functions so any who are curious about the organisation who watch the vids will be under no illusion about how INSANE it is in dub-ville
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Acronyms
by Distracted inreading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
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The Marvster
a couple more (obvious ones that are pretty self explanatory)
DF'd - disfellowshipped
DA'd - disassosiated.
COBE - coordinator of the body of elders
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Acronyms
by Distracted inreading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
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The Marvster
G.O.D you might see that one sometime... Gardians of the Doctrine, as Mr Jackson recently called the governing body at the ARC (Australian Royal Commission - or just RC)
Yep I've only been here a few months but run into the odd abbreviation that I can't understand, was wondering if there was a glossary or something.... you'll eventually catch on.
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Not for Believers - could be hard to swallow
by The Marvster inwell now that i'm a confirmed apostate (a couple of the forum posters confirmed this today), gosh hearing myself say that is a bit frightening.... how the hell did i get to this place, well thanks to anonymity, my 'still in' family don't know this yet... .
after a whole day of watching various people describe their differences with creationist ideas, i'm finally watching this one.... it's tongue in cheek and is hilarious to watch....(this is not meant to mock people's belief in god as such, but more to do with how creationist speculation seems to go against openly available data).
i noticed that some of the arguments made by kent hovind, a creationist evangelist, smells very much like stuff i learned in 'life how did it get here by evolution or creation', and in other publications trying to explain why some phenomena in the solar system etc points to the precision in the universe = there must have been a divine hand... i assume he didn't get the information from jw's, so i wonder who jw's were getting their info from.... well thanks to sites like jwfacts, it's as clear as day anyway please don't watch if you're not ready to take in the copious amounts of data expressed to counter creationist claims... i'm only 20 minutes in and it's pretty devastating to creationist argument, the author of the video encourages each watcher to go do the math themselves where possible, stating even a high school education will give you enough tools to check out the figures and see if they add up.... (oops, that might be a problem for your die hard jw).
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The Marvster
Leveltheplayingfield.
you are right, it's insanely long...
I got through about one and a half hours last night, and couldn't do any more. will have to take in little chunks.
Azor: yeah I can see that people who are openly atheist, or even agnostic, or don't have an opinion could be open to being treated as 'weird' by believers. I don't think the two different ways of thinking can ever meet on peaceful ground.
LouT8503
I didn't even think of that, yeah, a 4 hour video is so insignificant compared to years and years of droning on and on and on with indoctrination in the borg